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The purpose of this discussion group is to foster communication among engineers, geologists, metallurgists, economists and others, worldwide, with an interest in mining and metallurgical cost estimating, mining feasibility analysis, and related economic studies. The discussion group is a forum to share ideas and information, and to help each other find solutions to problems.

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Cost Engineering Standards for Feasibility Studies Reply to topic Reply

  • By Otto Schumacher

    about 1 year ago

    Good ideas, Sean.  I've mentioned the Conference to my short course students, with no response forthcoming.  I'm also sending emails to certain individuals that I think will have an interest in the discussions, but no response from them as yet.  I think part of the problem is the difficulty one encounters when trying to enter the discussion.  Zoe is working on this.  Hopefully she will be able to smooth that step out a bit.

    On the subject of Cost Engineering Standards, Richard Bullock presented a good discussion of standards for feasibility analyses, or lack thereof in his Jackling Lecture to SME last year.  The lecture was published as an article in "Mining Engineering" magazine, April 2011, p79.  This article sets the stage very well for discussion of the need for standards.

  • By Sean Shafiee

    about 1 year ago

    Thank so much to establish this great online discussion about Mine Cost. I agree with you that the standards for calculating and reporting capital and operating cost data for proposed mining projects are virtually non-existent. The Canadian NI 43-101 Technical Report standards is very good, while I think Australian mining industry is slightly different with Canada or the US. AusIMME published Cost Estimation Handbook in 1993 and it will update again next year (2012). I reckon, if we can find a way to link all technical people around the world here to talk about their products and share their outcome should help to improve standards.

    Obviously, that is an ideal suggestion!! Then in the short term is impossible. Nowadays, Internet is contacted all the people around the world. Then with this facility, we can link them all together. I strongly recommend to pick a topic and discuss about it (that is similar job that you have already did till now) and then send couple of email to key people to invite them here and discuss with them. For transparency, I do also suggest that to publish all communications here, as well. In this way, absorb more attention and progress in this topic. What do you think?
  • By Otto Schumacher

    about 1 year ago

    Although they are still a work in progress, standards for reporting of mineral resource and reserve amounts are fairly well defined and accepted worldwide, e.g. Canadian National Instrument 43-101 standards.  However, standards for calculating and reporting capital and operating cost data for proposed mining projects are virtually non-existant.  In Canadian NI 43-101 Technical Report standards, for instance, they are specified as follows in Item 25:

    Technical reports on development properties and production properties must include -------- capital and operating cost estimates, with major components being set out in tabular form.

    Should more stringent standards be established?  If so, how?

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Installation costs for milling equipment Reply to topic Reply

  • By Otto Schumacher

    about 1 year ago

    A problem commonly faced by cost estimators is how to estimate installation costs for milling equipment for prefeasibility purposes before any design work has been completed. The publication "Mining and Mineral Processing Equipment Costs and Preliminary Capital Cost Estimations" by A.L. Mular, The Canadian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy, Special Volume 25, 1982, contains a series of factors for installation based on the capital cost of the equipment unit. These factors have been used by estimators for years, but they are very general and now quite dated. Is there a better source of information or procedure available for estimating equipment installation costs at the prefeasibility level?

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Taylor's Rule for estimating mine life Reply to topic Reply

  • By Otto Schumacher

    about 1 year ago

    Taylor's Rule provides the following guideline for estimated the expected life of a mine based on its expected ore tonnage:

    Life(years) = 0.2 x 4√expected ore tonnage

    The life in years is commonly converted to daily production rate for estimating purposes.  Is this a reasonable way to estimate daily production rate for early prefeasibility studies?  Is there a better way? 

     

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Mine Costs - Continuous Conferences Home Reply to topic Reply

  • By Zoe Mullard

    about 4 months ago

    This link will take you to Mine Costs Online Conference

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Mine Costs Resources Reply to topic Reply

  • By InfoMine Admin

    about 1 year ago

    Otto Schumacher has recently run acourse entitled: Cost Estimating for Mining Feasibility Analysis. A list of resources can be viewed here.

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Code of Conduct Reply to topic Reply

  • By InfoMine Admin

    about 4 months ago

    Online Conferences are moderated forums designed to stimulate exchange of technical information for distinct communities in the mining industry. Each conference has a Chair, Vice Chair and Coordinator. It is the role of the conference Chair, Vice Chair and Coordinator to act as moderators and manage the discussion, ensuring that posts are kept on topic.

    1. The conferences are intended for professionals within the mining industry. The discussion and papers should be high quality and informative, such that everyone can benefit from their participation. All participants must demonstrate mutual respect at all times.
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  • By InfoMine Admin

    about 1 year ago

    To participate in the discussion, participants must be registered (or a subscriber) with InfoMine. It is free to register with InfoMine - please click here to create your user profile.

    Once you have registered, please send your User Name to the Conference Secretary, who will provide conference access.

    When you start participating in the dialogue, we encourage you to provide a short introduction indicating you experience in the specific field of interest.

    Participants of the discussion agree to abide by the Conference Code of Conduct.

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Purpose of Mine Costs Conference Reply to topic Reply

  • By InfoMine Admin

    about 2 years ago

    The purpose of this discussion group is to foster communication among engineers, geologists, metallurgists, economists and others, worldwide, with an interest in mining and metallurgical cost estimating, mining feasibility analysis, and related economic studies.

    The discussion group is a forum to share ideas and information, and to help each other find solutions to problems. Participants are encouraged to ask questions of other participants, to answer questions when able, to submit papers pertinent to the stated purpose of the group, and to comment on papers, comments, questions, and answers submitted by others.

    All communication is to be conducted in a professional manner, with civility and respect for the varying opinions, background, and skill levels of others.

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Otto Schumacher

Otto SchumacherOtto Schumacher is a professional mining engineer and professional geologist based in Spokane, WA, USA. He holds a Bachelor of Geological Engineering degree from the University of Minnesota and a Master of Science - Geology degree from the University of New Mexico. He has worked as a mining engineer and geologist in underground mine operations for base and precious metals as well as on exploration projects for uranium and iron. He began specializing in mining cost and economic analysis upon joining the U.S. Bureau of Mines as Supervisor, Mining Feasibility Analysis Group, where he was responsible for development of aspects of Bureau systems for mine cost estimating and mineral property evaluation. In 1983 he started Western Mine Engineering, Inc., the predecessor to InfoMine's CostMine division, where he consulted and taught seminars in the area of mine evaluations, and also developed Mining Cost Service and related publications. He presently serves as a Director and technical advisor to CostMine. He is a past president of the Columbia Section of SME and a past president of the Northwest Mining Association.

Shahriar (Sean) Shafiee

Shahriar (Sean) ShafieeSean is General Manager at R2Mining and in charge of producing all CostMine products within AustralAsia. He is a mineral economist with a B.A in Economics, M.A in Econometrics, and PhD Degree in Mineral Economics through the CRCMining at the University of Queensland. Sean is also involved in teaching mineral economics’ courses at different Universities Australia wide.

Prior to Sean’s current role at R2Mining, he has worked as an industrial consultant at Peabody Energy, Rio Tinto and Xstrata in the Project Valuation and Mineral Price Modelling. Sean completed an internship with InfoMine USA to develop an econometrics coal cost models for Australian coal mines based on the InfoMine models and methodology. He has been always actively involved in teaching, research and consulting in project evaluation and mineral economics courses over the last 10 years.

Sean’s main interests are: advanced mining project evaluation, real option valuation, mining cost estimation, mineral economics, econometrics modelling, and energy economics. In the last couple of years, Sean has also published more than 15 Journal/Conference papers and several Chapter Books in these fields.

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